Comments on: Back Pain Relief: What About Bed Rest As A Back Pain Relief Strategy? http://eraseyourbackpain.com/back-pain-relief/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/ Sciatica, herniated disc, & back pain relief strategies from sciatica, herniated disc, & back pain relief expert Malton A. Schexneider, PT, MMSc Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:29:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Lillian http://eraseyourbackpain.com/back-pain-relief/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-457 Lillian Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:56:03 +0000 http://eraseyourbackpain.com/2007/12/18/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-457 I have spoken with you before. I have had the 3rd MRI come back witht he same results, a herniated disc...L5-S1 I have tried chiroprator, tens, rack, medications even nerve blockers, accupuncture. I am waiting to see a neuro surgeon. Workers Compensation has sent me back to work and for physio until I get an appointment with a neuro surgeon. Today was my first day at physio. The first thing she put me on was a bike for 20 minutes. I told her that I was in a lot of pain and that I have a saddle bum. She then took me to a chair and had me use two things to get more muscle in the lower leg. I am in a lot of pain tonight. I am to go back on Friday and she said that I will be working out for 1 1/2 hours. my first question is ...is the bike a good thing to start off with especially with no warm up exercises or anything. I am back at work on a graduated return to work. WCB has restrictions on what I can and cannot do at work. I am to sit for 1/2 and hour then stand with a desk that rises for 1/2 hour to do my computer work. I find it strange that with all the restrictions that I have at work that the phyio would have me ride a bike for 20 minutes or I should say try to have me ride a bike. I could not and when she came back after 7 minutes...I told her that it hurt and she adjusted the seat but I still had pain and especially the saddle seat feeling. Tonight I am in so much pain. I am afraid to go back. I suggested that maybe what I should do is walk on the walking treadle and she said that will come later. My question is ...is this the best way to start off physio...no warm ups right on to a bike when sitting is so hard on my back and legs...?? THANK YOU Lillian I have spoken with you before. I have had the 3rd MRI come back witht he same results, a herniated disc…L5-S1
I have tried chiroprator, tens, rack, medications even nerve blockers, accupuncture. I am waiting to see a neuro surgeon. Workers Compensation has sent me back to work and for physio until I get an appointment with a neuro surgeon. Today was my first day at physio. The first thing she put me on was a bike for 20 minutes. I told her that I was in a lot of pain and that I have a saddle bum. She then took me to a chair and had me use two things to get more muscle in the lower leg. I am in a lot of pain tonight. I am to go back on Friday and she said that I will be working out for 1 1/2 hours. my first question is …is the bike a good thing to start off with especially with no warm up exercises or anything. I am back at work on a graduated return to work. WCB has restrictions on what I can and cannot do at work. I am to sit for 1/2 and hour then stand with a desk that rises for 1/2 hour to do my computer work. I find it strange that with all the restrictions that I have at work that the phyio would have me ride a bike for 20 minutes or I should say try to have me ride a bike. I could not and when she came back after 7 minutes…I told her that it hurt and she adjusted the seat but I still had pain and especially the saddle seat feeling. Tonight I am in so much pain. I am afraid to go back. I suggested that maybe what I should do is walk on the walking treadle and she said that will come later. My question is …is this the best way to start off physio…no warm ups right on to a bike when sitting is so hard on my back and legs…??

THANK YOU

Lillian

]]> By: Jim Edwards http://eraseyourbackpain.com/back-pain-relief/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-435 Jim Edwards Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:30:34 +0000 http://eraseyourbackpain.com/2007/12/18/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-435 Tony, Before surgery, look at every other option. I had a Percutaneous disection. That was 18 years ago. I'm still walking, still upright. Still active though L2-L3 thru L5-S1 have been chronic and deteriorating. I'm lucky, Malton IS my PT and has been for years. He regularly has to get my sacrum unstuck. I can sympathize with you as I've had to crawl to the pot many times. I now keep a portable one by the bed. I encouraging you to stay as active as you can. It does get better if you keep the hamstring, quads, and periformis stretched as much as possible. good luck and wish you good health. jim Tony, Before surgery, look at every other option. I had a Percutaneous disection. That was 18 years ago. I’m still walking, still upright. Still active though L2-L3 thru L5-S1 have been chronic and deteriorating. I’m lucky, Malton IS my PT and has been for years. He regularly has to get my sacrum unstuck. I can sympathize with you as I’ve had to crawl to the pot many times. I now keep a portable one by the bed. I encouraging you to stay as active as you can. It does get better if you keep the hamstring, quads, and periformis stretched as much as possible. good luck and wish you good health. jim

]]> By: Gary http://eraseyourbackpain.com/back-pain-relief/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-427 Gary Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:24:34 +0000 http://eraseyourbackpain.com/2007/12/18/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-427 Annie, your walking may be the problem. You irritate you sciatic nerve by walking. If there is an EMG proven nerve damage in your leg you might want to talk to your nurce at work regarding alternative work arangment. Annie, your walking may be the problem. You irritate you sciatic nerve by walking. If there is an EMG proven nerve damage in your leg you might want to talk to your nurce at work regarding alternative work arangment.

]]> By: Malton A. Schexneider, PT, MMSc http://eraseyourbackpain.com/back-pain-relief/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-310 Malton A. Schexneider, PT, MMSc Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:28:25 +0000 http://eraseyourbackpain.com/2007/12/18/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-310 I really need more information. Go to http://eraseyourbackpain.com/forms.html and provide me the necessary information. Thanks I really need more information. Go to http://eraseyourbackpain.com/forms.html and provide me the necessary information.

Thanks

]]> By: Annie Kissoonsingh http://eraseyourbackpain.com/back-pain-relief/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-304 Annie Kissoonsingh Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:22:05 +0000 http://eraseyourbackpain.com/2007/12/18/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-304 I've just read your article from Tony. I can buy your book, no problem, but like Tony I cannot walk sometimes. I just walk because I have too. For the past week I have being on pain killers and with it I drink a can of coke.The nurse at work says that the caffine from the coke will help the pain to go a little faster. At first it did, but not again. I take 3 -500 gm plus 2 - 220 gm of anaprox to come to work. I walk most of the day, except for about two hrs at the computer, where I do my orders. I had to cut my working hrs, because of the pain. I'm welcome to any suggestions. Thanks Annie I’ve just read your article from Tony. I can buy your book, no problem, but like Tony I cannot walk sometimes. I just walk because I have too. For the past week I have being on pain killers and with it I drink a can of coke.The nurse at work says that the caffine from the coke will help the pain to go a little faster. At first it did, but not again. I take 3 -500 gm plus 2 - 220 gm of anaprox to come to work. I walk most of the day, except for about two hrs at the computer, where I do my orders. I had to cut my working hrs, because of the pain. I’m welcome to any suggestions.

Thanks
Annie

]]> By: Curtis Ching http://eraseyourbackpain.com/back-pain-relief/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-256 Curtis Ching Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:52:52 +0000 http://eraseyourbackpain.com/2007/12/18/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-256 Dear Sir: I have read all of your topics and lessons on line. My problem is that my son had a work related back injury in 2005 and so far has had 12 PT treatments on August 2006 to Oct. 2006. ever since then, the medical care facility have not given him anykind of treatments for the reason that the insurance carrier had denied further treatmentsdue to the fact that the medical records do not indicate a need for referal to other services. Since that time til present, my son has been taking Vicodin continuosly til present with no other type of treatment. In November 2007, the insurance carrier with approval of the State Workers compensation Division sent him to an independant examiner who says that his injury had reached MMI (maximum Medical Improvement and that no future treatmen will be of benefit so the insurance carrier under WC laws is not liable for furhte treatment. However, due to the continuous pain, MY son refuses to do any bending in fear that the ppain will come back, and due to this inactivity, other muscles have tightened up and he is now worse of that the original injury. I would like to discuss this with you and see if you can help, but slpace is limited. can I write you in a lengthuy letter and give you all the facts to get your opinion, and suggestions on what kaind of help he can get. Right now, I've taken him to an Osteopath, Massage therapist, Pressure Point therapist, Physiatrist,acupuncturist, Chiropractor,and occupational therapist of a different nature, and they all agree that his condition now may not have been caused by the injury, but is in fact a result of not having the properdiagnosis and treatment that could have damaged other muscles by doing improper stretches and exercises. So now that the medical insurance carrier is of thehook, I must pay for all treatment out of pocket, and I definitly do not have the money because I was told that there are soo many problems as the result of delay in treatment thsayt it will take at least 2 years of hard work and a coordibnated effeort of 3 specialist to bring him back to normal. Have you had anything similar to this happen to someone you know? Thanx Curt Dear Sir: I have read all of your topics and lessons on line. My problem is that my son had a work related back injury in 2005 and so far has had 12 PT treatments on August 2006 to Oct. 2006. ever since then, the medical care facility have not given him anykind of treatments for the reason that the insurance carrier had denied further treatmentsdue to the fact that the medical records do not indicate a need for referal to other services. Since that time til present, my son has been taking Vicodin continuosly til present with no other type of treatment. In November 2007, the insurance carrier with approval of the State Workers compensation Division sent him to an independant examiner who says that his injury had reached MMI (maximum Medical Improvement and that no future treatmen will be of benefit so the insurance carrier under WC laws is not liable for furhte treatment. However, due to the continuous pain, MY son refuses to do any bending in fear that the ppain will come back, and due to this inactivity, other muscles have tightened up and he is now worse of that the original injury. I would like to discuss this with you and see if you can help, but slpace is limited. can I write you in a lengthuy letter and give you all the facts to get your opinion, and suggestions on what kaind of help he can get. Right now, I’ve taken him to an Osteopath, Massage therapist, Pressure Point therapist, Physiatrist,acupuncturist, Chiropractor,and occupational therapist of a different nature, and they all agree that his condition now may not have been caused by the injury, but is in fact a result of not having the properdiagnosis and treatment that could have damaged other muscles by doing improper stretches and exercises. So now that the medical insurance carrier is of thehook, I must pay for all treatment out of pocket, and I definitly do not have the money because I was told that there are soo many problems as the result of delay in treatment thsayt it will take at least 2 years of hard work and a coordibnated effeort of 3 specialist to bring him back to normal. Have you had anything similar to this happen to someone you know? Thanx Curt

]]> By: Malton A. Schexneider, PT, MMSc http://eraseyourbackpain.com/back-pain-relief/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-218 Malton A. Schexneider, PT, MMSc Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:45:14 +0000 http://eraseyourbackpain.com/2007/12/18/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-218 Tony, Man, I really empathize with you. Sounds like life really sucks right now (that's a clinical term, by the way). Anyway, here's the deal: There are 4 reasons why you would consider surgery. 1. You have intractable pain that interferes with your function. 2. You have failed all conservative measures. 3. You have frank neurological changes. 4. Medical emergency.- tumor, cord signs, etc. From your description, you make a good arguement for satisfying at least 2 of the 4. The MRI findings don't necessarily concern me as 85% of people waling around with no pain have similar findings. Should you have surgery? I would first consider epidural injections (you didn't mention those). See my article on epidurals here: http://tinyurl.com/5dbgfe Will my program work for you? Possibly. And if it doesn't, at the very least, you'll be a better surgical candidate. And if it does... Well I anticipate you'll be running with the bulls really soon. Let me know if I can help. Tony,

Man, I really empathize with you. Sounds like life really sucks right now (that’s a clinical term, by the way).

Anyway, here’s the deal: There are 4 reasons why you would consider surgery.

1. You have intractable pain that interferes with your function.
2. You have failed all conservative measures.
3. You have frank neurological changes.
4. Medical emergency.- tumor, cord signs, etc.

From your description, you make a good arguement for satisfying at least 2 of the 4.

The MRI findings don’t necessarily concern me as 85% of people waling around with no pain have similar findings.

Should you have surgery? I would first consider epidural injections (you didn’t mention those). See my article on epidurals here: http://tinyurl.com/5dbgfe

Will my program work for you? Possibly. And if it doesn’t, at the very least, you’ll be a better surgical candidate. And if it does…

Well I anticipate you’ll be running with the bulls really soon.

Let me know if I can help.

]]> By: Antony Conyerd http://eraseyourbackpain.com/back-pain-relief/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-212 Antony Conyerd Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:55:33 +0000 http://eraseyourbackpain.com/2007/12/18/back-pain-relief-what-about-bed-rest-as-a-back-pain-relief-strategy/#comment-212 Mr Schexneider, In an earlier post you said that asking questions is very important and I agree,this is a little difficult for me being an English speaker living in Spain. I will keep my history brief. In 2001 I was diagnosed with "Two level disc degeneration with an L4/5 posterior focal disc prolapse" I am 44 years old and since 2001 I spend somewhere in the region of three months per year unable to funtion normaly i.e. I go to hospital on a stretcher they feed me intraveinous drugs to kill the pain then i will spend another month on the floor crawling to the bathroom. Taking Adolonta liquid and Diazepan when neccasary. Then a further 2 months slowly improving. However I manage one way or another to get to the Chiropracter even in a wheelchair one year, i find the chiro helps but slowly. The docs say i need an opp but will not do it until i say I can take no more pain.I dont want an op! I think it is easy to say bed rest is no good but often its my only choice. I have friends with the same problem who find walking is their relief,but when i am in my accute stage i can not. I am not overweight , i eat healthely and the months i am well i go to the gym 4 times per week.( I always do my back stretches every day) This year it has now been 7 months with no relief, I take my painkillers, go to work ( if i can ) and when i come back i am straight on the bed in agony. I am concerned i cant even walk around the shops with my wife. So it does anoy me when people say almost as you have " get up and get on with it " ! So what do you suggest ? I dont mind buying your book but i am a bit fed up with the same old " do these exercises, eat well, swim take a massage lose weight " I already do these things but I have a medically diagnosed (MRI) problem that will never go away ( in my non doctor opinion ) Question : Should i consider an operation ? Is your system anything that I havn;t already mentioned ? What is my way forward ? Thank you for listening ( no one wants to hear about my back and i hate talking about it. Tony Mr Schexneider,
In an earlier post you said that asking questions is very important and I agree,this is a little difficult for me being an English speaker living in Spain.
I will keep my history brief. In 2001 I was diagnosed with “Two level disc degeneration with an L4/5 posterior focal disc prolapse” I am 44 years old and since 2001 I spend somewhere in the region of three months per year unable to funtion normaly i.e. I go to hospital on a stretcher they feed me intraveinous drugs to kill the pain then i will spend another month on the floor crawling to the bathroom. Taking Adolonta liquid and Diazepan when neccasary. Then a further 2 months slowly improving.
However I manage one way or another to get to the Chiropracter even in a wheelchair one year, i find the chiro helps but slowly.
The docs say i need an opp but will not do it until i say I can take no more pain.I dont want an op!
I think it is easy to say bed rest is no good but often its my only choice. I have friends with the same problem who find walking is their relief,but when i am in my accute stage i can not.
I am not overweight , i eat healthely and the months i am well i go to the gym 4 times per week.( I always do my back stretches every day)
This year it has now been 7 months with no relief, I take my painkillers, go to work ( if i can ) and when i come back i am straight on the bed in agony.
I am concerned i cant even walk around the shops with my wife.
So it does anoy me when people say almost as you have ” get up and get on with it ” !
So what do you suggest ? I dont mind buying your book but i am a bit fed up with the same old ” do these exercises, eat well, swim take a massage lose weight ”
I already do these things but I have a medically diagnosed (MRI) problem that will never go away ( in my non doctor opinion )
Question : Should i consider an operation ?
Is your system anything that I havn;t already mentioned ?
What is my way forward ?
Thank you for listening ( no one wants to hear about my back and i hate talking about it.

Tony

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